ben carson or paul ryan to talk about junking the healthcare law all together? i think that's tough. >> i think that's a bad tactic. hopefully we'll get some smart modifications to it. we're not going to junk the president's signature bill? it's silly to -- neil neal modifications would be touch touchdowns on the titanic. >> it's a tough deal, but the chamber has an idea of delaying it while people get used to the things they have to do. if we get regulators that don't end up impugntive about everything to try to help people through the process, because it's so complicated, how many hours worked, how many temporary employees do you have, is? that,. >> neil: and if you're in violation, glory big problem. >> it's a fine. >> neil: do you mind if i switch gears? i haven't talk to you about the rally. the administration turns around and says that's the government spending, the market doubled. we're off to the races because we got off spending and investing in this economy. what do you think? >> the market -- they can thank the fed, bless bebernanke every night before